Christian nationalism has divided white evangelical churches; one Phoenix pastor and some unlikely allies are at the forefront of a growing resistance.

Hosted and produced by Ruth Braunstein, WHEN THE WOLVES CAME: EVANGELICALS RESISTING EXTREMISM is a six-part audio documentary that premiered on March 4, 2025. It was produced in partnership with the brilliant team at The Mash-Up Americans with generous support from the Henry Luce Foundation. The show won Gold in the Documentary category at the Signal Awards in October 2025, and was named among the 20 best podcasts of 2025 by The Atlantic.